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Yep mais pour l'instant 4.2 est suffisant. Je verrai si j'ai besoin de plus.

Salut, 2*8 en Dual Channel.

Hello, Ma config : - MSI Z87-G45 Gaming. - Intel Core I7 4770K@4.2Ghz (maintenant :D) - 16 Go DDR3@2400Mhz (profil XMP). - Sandisk SSD Sata de 256Go. - Kfa² Geforce RTX 2080. Avec ça, je tiens le 60 fps en 120% de résolution sur AC Origins en FullHD ou 40-45 fps en 4K. Le tout en Ultra partout.

Merci ^^ Je suis reparti pour trois ans. J'attends de voir si Intel rattrape son retard de gravure et si la Dddr5 sera performante.

Test passé avec succès. --- IPDT64 - Revision: 4.1.1.33 --- IPDT64 - Start Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:13 CPU1 Genuine Intel CPU Test Module Version: 1.0.16.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Test Result - PASS Expected: GenuineIntel Detected: GenuineIntel End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 CPU Brand String Test Module Version: 1.0.20.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Test Result - PASS Expected: Intel(R) Core(TM) CPU @ Detected: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz Intel(R) Core(TM) processor detected..!!.. End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Cache Test Module Version: 1.0.16.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Test Result - PASS --- Reading Cache Size --- - Detected L1 Data Cache Size --> 32 - Detected L1 Inst Cache Size --> 32 - Detected L2 Cache Size --> 256 - Detected L3 Cache Size --> 8192 Cache Size Test Passed!!! End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:14 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 MMXSSE Test Module Version: 1.0.21.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:15 2019 Test Result - PASS DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 --- Determining MMX - SSE capabilities --- ..MMX is supported on this CPU.. ..SSE is supported on this CPU.. ..SSE2 is supported on this CPU.. ..SSE3 is supported on this CPU.. ..SSSE3 is supported on this CPU.. ..SSE4.1 is supported on this CPU.. ..SSE4.2 is supported on this CPU.. MMX Test Result --- PASS SSE Test Result --- PASS SSE2 Test Result --- PASS SSE3 Test Result --- PASS SSSE3 Test Result --- PASS SSE4.1 Test Result --- PASS SSE4.2 Test Result --- PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:15 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 IMC Test Module Version: 1.0.13.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:15 2019 Test Result - PASS --- Reading Memory Size --- Detected Memory Size is --> 16.00GB --- Subtest - Memory Size Test Passed!!! --- --- Integrated Memory Controller Stress Test --- Memory to be allocated = 1048576 byte Memory Allocated. Test 1 Ones and Zeros Moving Inversions write operations - Passed Test 1 Ones and Zeros Moving Inversions verification operations - Passed Test 2 32Bits Sliding Ones write operations - Passed Test 2 32Bits Sliding Ones verification operations - Passed Test 3 32Bits Sliding Zero write operations - Passed Test 3 32Bits Sliding Zero verification operations - Passed Memory Deallocated. --- Subtest - Memory Stress Test Passed!!! --- Integrated Memory Controller Stress Test Passed!!! End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:15 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Parallel_PrimeNum_i7-4 Test Module Version: 1.0.0.9 Start Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:15 Test Result - PASS Module Math_PrimeNum.exe Completed - Pass Prime Number Generation Test Module Version: 1.0.19.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:15 2019 DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 AVX is supported in your OS Max AVX supported = AVX2 Test Result - PASS Operation Per Second: 110087 Error: 0 --- Prime Number Generation Test Passed!!!--- End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:35 2019 Total Time: seconds: 20 Parallel_PrimeNum_i7-4 End Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:35 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Parallel_FP_i7-4 Test Module Version: 1.0.0.9 Start Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:35 Test Result - PASS Module Math_FP.exe Completed - Pass Floating Point Test Module Version: 1.0.18.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:35 2019 DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 AVX is supported in your OS Max AVX supported = AVX2 FMA3 supported Test Result - PASS Million Floating Points per Second, MFLOPS: 541.255 Error: 0 --- Floating Point Test Passed!!!--- End Time: Fri May 31 11:08:55 2019 Total Time: seconds: 20 Parallel_FP_i7-4 End Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Parallel_Math_i7-4 Test Module Version: 1.0.0.9 Start Time: 31/05/2019 11:08:55 Test Result - PASS Module Math_FP.exe Completed - Pass Module Math_PrimeNum.exe Completed - Pass Module AVX.exe Completed - Pass Module FMA3.exe Completed - Pass Floating Point Test Module Version: 1.0.18.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:55 2019 DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 AVX is supported in your OS Max AVX supported = AVX2 FMA3 supported Test Result - PASS Million Floating Points per Second, MFLOPS: 0.13 Error: 0 --- Floating Point Test Passed!!!--- End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:25 2019 Total Time: seconds: 90 Prime Number Generation Test Module Version: 1.0.19.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:55 2019 DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 AVX is supported in your OS Max AVX supported = AVX2 Test Result - PASS Operation Per Second: 47152 Error: 0 --- Prime Number Generation Test Passed!!!--- End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:25 2019 Total Time: seconds: 90 AVX Test Module Version: 2.0.20.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:55 2019 Test Result - PASS DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 --- CPU Features Detection --- ..AVX is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX2 is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512BW is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512CD is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512DQ is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512ER is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512F is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512IFMA52 is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512PF is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512VBMI is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512VL is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AES is supported by this CPU.. ..PCLMULQDQ is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX is supported by this Operating System.. Most Advanced AVX Feature Detected.. AVX2 AVX2 Test Result --- PASS AES Test Result --- PASS PCLMULQDQ Test Result --- PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:27 2019 Total Time: seconds: 92 FMA3 Test Module Version: 1.0.18.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:08:55 2019 Test Result - PASS DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 --- CPU Features Detection --- ..FMA3 is supported by this CPU.. ..FMA3 is supported by this Operating System.. FMA3 Test Result --- PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:26 2019 Total Time: seconds: 91 Parallel_Math_i7-4 End Time: 31/05/2019 11:10:27 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Parallel_GPUStressW_i7 Test Module Version: 1.0.0.9 Start Time: 31/05/2019 11:10:27 Test Result - PASS Module AVX.exe Completed - Pass Module FMA3.exe Completed - Pass AVX Test Module Version: 2.0.20.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:10:27 2019 Test Result - PASS DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 --- CPU Features Detection --- ..AVX is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX2 is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512BW is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512CD is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512DQ is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512ER is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512F is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512IFMA52 is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512PF is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512VBMI is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AVX512VL is NOT supported by this CPU.. ..AES is supported by this CPU.. ..PCLMULQDQ is supported by this CPU.. ..AVX is supported by this Operating System.. Most Advanced AVX Feature Detected.. AVX2 AVX2 Test Result --- PASS AES Test Result --- PASS PCLMULQDQ Test Result --- PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:58 2019 Total Time: seconds: 31 FMA3 Test Module Version: 1.0.18.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:10:27 2019 Test Result - PASS DetectUtils64 DLL Version - 1.1.2 --- CPU Features Detection --- ..FMA3 is supported by this CPU.. ..FMA3 is supported by this Operating System.. FMA3 Test Result --- PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:10:58 2019 Total Time: seconds: 31 Parallel_GPUStressW_i7 End Time: 31/05/2019 11:10:58 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 CPU Load Module Version: 1.0.16.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:10:58 2019 CPU Load: PASS End Time: Fri May 31 11:12:05 2019 Total Time: seconds: 67 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 CPU Frequency Test Module Version: 1.0.20.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:12:05 2019 Test Result - PASS Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz Expected CPU Frequency: 3.50 Detected CPU Frequency: 3.50211 Expected Base Clock: 100 Detected Base Clock: 100.06 QPI link rate Test - Not supported. Skipping QPI link rate Test. End Time: Fri May 31 11:12:06 2019 Total Time: seconds: 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 PCH Test Module Version: 1.0.16.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:12:06 2019 Test Result - PASS LPC deviceID = 0x8c44 Chipset : Intel(R) Z87 Express Chipset 4 device connected to PCI Express Port 1 1 : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 2 : Contr�leur High Definition Audio 3 : Contr�leur d�h�te compatible xHCI USB 4 : NVIDIA USB Type-C Port Policy Controller No device connected to PCI Express Port 2 1 device connected to PCI Express Port 5 1 : Killer E2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller 4 device connected to SATA Controller 1 1 : HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L 2 : WDC WD10EZRX-00A8LB0 3 : SanDisk SDSSDHP256G 4 : WDC WD10EADS-00P8B0 4USB devices detected 1 : P�riph�rique d�entr�e USB 2 : P�riph�rique USB composite 3 : Generic Bluetooth Radio 4 : P�riph�rique USB composite 1 device connected to Intel High Definition Audio Controller 1 : Realtek High Definition Audio Platform Controller Hub Test Completed!!! End Time: Fri May 31 11:12:07 2019 Total Time: seconds: 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU1 Intel(R) spbc Module Test Module Version: 1.0.11.64b.W Start Time: Fri May 31 11:12:07 2019 Test Result - PASS ..!!..Processor under test is verified as 'PRODUCTION'..!!.. Processor Manufacturer: GenuineIntel Processor Brand String: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz End Time: Fri May 31 11:12:07 2019 Total Time: seconds: 0 -------------------------------------------------------------------- --- IPDT64 - Temperature Monitor Results Temperature Monitor will run in parallel with compatible modules --- Temperature Test --- ... Version 1.0.22.64b.W ... Current Junction Temperature is 38C Current Degrees Below Max 67C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 67 degrees below max --- Temperature Test --- ... Version 1.0.22.64b.W ... Entering run forever Current Junction Temperature is 41C Current Degrees Below Max 64C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 64 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 63C Current Degrees Below Max 42C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 42 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 68C Current Degrees Below Max 37C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 37 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 68C Current Degrees Below Max 37C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 37 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 70C Current Degrees Below Max 35C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 35 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 54C Current Degrees Below Max 51C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 51 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 56C Current Degrees Below Max 49C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 49 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 56C Current Degrees Below Max 49C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 49 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 55C Current Degrees Below Max 50C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 50 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 57C Current Degrees Below Max 48C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 48 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 62C Current Degrees Below Max 43C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 43 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 58C Current Degrees Below Max 47C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 47 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 51C Current Degrees Below Max 54C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 54 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 61C Current Degrees Below Max 44C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 44 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 69C Current Degrees Below Max 36C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 36 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 60C Current Degrees Below Max 45C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 45 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 64C Current Degrees Below Max 41C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 41 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 62C Current Degrees Below Max 43C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 43 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 64C Current Degrees Below Max 41C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 41 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 60C Current Degrees Below Max 45C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 45 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 63C Current Degrees Below Max 42C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 42 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 59C Current Degrees Below Max 46C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 46 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 63C Current Degrees Below Max 42C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 42 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 58C Current Degrees Below Max 47C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 47 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 58C Current Degrees Below Max 47C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 47 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 55C Current Degrees Below Max 50C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 50 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 56C Current Degrees Below Max 49C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 49 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 56C Current Degrees Below Max 49C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 49 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 60C Current Degrees Below Max 45C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 45 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 55C Current Degrees Below Max 50C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 50 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 58C Current Degrees Below Max 47C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 47 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 51C Current Degrees Below Max 54C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 54 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 51C Current Degrees Below Max 54C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 54 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 51C Current Degrees Below Max 54C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 54 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 45C Current Degrees Below Max 60C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 60 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 50C Current Degrees Below Max 55C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 55 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 49C Current Degrees Below Max 56C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 56 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 48C Current Degrees Below Max 57C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 57 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 51C Current Degrees Below Max 54C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 54 degrees below max Test PASSED Current Junction Temperature is 47C Current Degrees Below Max 58C Maximum Target Temp Allowed 105C Test Result - PASS Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max Received 58 degrees below max Test PASSED Temperature Monitor Stopped Temperature Monitor Stopped Temperature Monitor Stopped Temperature Monitor Stopped -------------------------------------------------------------------- System Information ------------------ Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz Processor Information: Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3 Number of Physical Cores: 4 Number of Logical Cores: 8 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Professionnel 64 bits Graphics Information: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 -------------------------------------------------------------------- --- IPDT64 - End Time: 31/05/2019 11:12:07 --- IPDT64 - Result: Pass -------------------------------------------------------------------- @Carpe_Diem Je sais bien qu'Ubisoft ne fait aucun effort pour le PC, c'est navrant à force.

J'ai mis 42 en coef et 1,2V en CPU Voltage. Et j'ai fait tourné Assassin's Creed Origins plusieurs heures. Ca n'a pas bronché.

Hello, Je cherche à OC mon processeur qui est un 4770K@3.5GHz fréquence de base pour lui faire atteindre les 4.2 voir 4.4Ghz. Ma carte mère est une MSI Z87 G45 Gaming et d'un refroidissement air Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. J'ai déjà essayé un VCore de 1.18V avec un coefficient de 40 pour atteindre les 4Ghz et ça semblait stable. Seul bémol, je ne peux pas lancer de test OCCT car le TMPIN5 est mal reconnu, la sonde affiche 127° non stop ce qui fait arrêter OCCT. Je vous joins une capture du de HWMonitor sans aucun OC. A votre avis, quels fréquence et vcore puis-je mettre ? Dois-je changer autre chose. J'ai trouvé ces topics https://www.cowcotland.com/topic31167.html, https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/resolu-4770k-g45-sujet_280406_1.htm Vous en pensez quoi ? Merci.

Je crois que finalement je vais suivre ton conseil. C'est vraiment trop cher pour ce que c'est. Je pense me rabattre sur un Dell XPS 13 en promo jusque demain. Core I7 8565, 16Go ram, SSD nvme 512Go pour 1495€ en promotion.

Tu peux peut-être me dire ce que tu penses de l'OS par rapport aux autres ? Et du clavier (positionnement des touches).

Je suis un peu dans ton cas aussi, je suis full Windows 10 chez moi pour l'instant et j'ai aussi essayé pléthore de distributions Linux que j'ai beaucoup appréciées. Ces systèmes fonctionnent bien quoi qu'on en dise. Je dois renouveler mon pc portable de 2013 qui se fait vieux et c'est pour ça que j'ai envie de tenter la pomme. Mais un modèle performant, c'est 2K.

Je réfléchis encore. Je ne veux pas me tromper. Un modèle de 2015 va-t-il être encore mis à jour longtemps ?

Hello, Je pense qu'il serait bien d'avoir une sorte de sommaires des actualités du brief avec des ancres vers chaque vignette. Ca permettrait de ne pas devoir scroller vers les actualités qui nous intéressent. Merci.

Est-ce une bonne affaire ? https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/product/G0VE6FN/A/macbook-air-avec-écran-retina-133-pouces-reconditionné-avec-processeur-intel-core-i5-bicœur-à-16-ghz-gris-sidéral?fnode=440f4128ddb1e1fe5bde81f6ea81257f469cdd7c3b9527048fa216d9d88c5d90b7f7143f321c46995253b7a242fc56c6f5f86e2657f37e3728c6f1bd9b5d7b4f203ffb0f52e5a774f0d623af089a6f80

Linus Tech Tip, j'aime bien sa chaîne, merci 🙂 Je ne cherche pas une performance dingue juste quelque chose de suffisamment performant pour faire du dev web.

Nouveaux macbook pro aujourd'hui avec la 4ème génération de clavier.... https://www.macg.co/mac/2019/05/apple-lance-des-macbook-pro-plus-rapides-equipes-dun-nouveau-clavier-106243 https://www.macg.co/materiel/2019/05/clavier-papillon-apple-elargit-son-programme-de-sav-et-modifie-encore-son-clavier-106244